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A Father Daughter Talk
Submitted by Staff on Thu, 2005-11-10 19:35.
A young woman was about to finish her last year of college. Like so many others her age she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat and was for distribution of all wealth. She felt deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Libertarian, which she expressed openly. One day she was challenging her father on his beliefs and his opposition to higher taxes on the rich & the addition of more government welfare programs. Based on the lectures that she had participated in and the occasional chat with a professor she felt that for years her father had obviously harbored an evil, even selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He stopped her and asked her point blank, how she was doing in school. She answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain. That she studied all the time, never had time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend and didn't really have many college friends because of spending all her time studying. That she was taking a more difficult curriculum. Her father listened and then asked, "How is your good friend Mary doing?" She replied, "Mary is barely getting by." She continued, "She barely has a 2.0 GPA," adding, "and all she takes are easy classes and she never studies. But Mary is so very popular on campus, college for her is a blast, she goes to all the parties all the time and very often doesn't even show up for classes because she is too hung over." Her father then asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your 4.0 GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0." He continued, "That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA." The daughter visibly shocked by her father's suggestion angrily fired back, "That wouldn't be fair! I worked really hard for mine, I did without and Mary has done little or nothing, she played while I worked real hard!" The father slowly smiled, winked and said, "Welcome to Libertarianism!" |
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Stupid story
Hi, im sorry but this story is totally stupid...
School has nothing to do with wealth.
The government helps corporations make more money by giving them grants, R&D funds, loose credits, tax breaks etc...
I think its only fair that corporations should pay more than individuals since they benefit from the system more...
Sure its hard to build a company, but once its up and running and you've paid your dues, it doesnt mean you can exploit the system.
Once youve got money, its alot easier to make more of it with much less work involved.
I think that all taxes should be the same for everyone... the problem is that when you are a huge corporation youve got 20 accountant / legal / advisors working full time figuring out ways to save money... most of the methods they use arent even possible to use for individuals.
This story is stupid because at the end you say that the 4 gpa should be shared with the 2gpa to make it 3 for both girls... this is unfair, and there is no reason why someone should ask for this. Taxes and public services are applied to EVERYONE, grades in school are individual, these 2 concept dont mix.
Fairness should be equal distribution based on usage... so if you have a "water slide theme park" you should pay more for water than if you just live in a normal house... because, guess what ? you use alot more of it.
Corporations, receives millions and millions of money from governments every year, so its only fair that they should give back to society , because the money they get from governments is the money we all pay as taxes..
[Interestingly Rasta, you've re-stated our point that those that work for it, should keep it, and not be forced to give it away. Thanks! --MJ]
You've made the point for your "opposition"....
Noting your inability to understand an/the analogy, and that the Mother/Father Talk is spot on, it comes down to this (what with taxation being robbery):
"Do you feel goods and/or services should be provided at the barrel of a gun?"
Pure and simple, taxation is force; it is theft. "Fairness" never enters into it. Your rebuke merely restates that taking from one to give to another is synonymous with a GPA point being taken from one to Help Balance Out another's GPA balance. Such is anti-American Democrat-thinking at its basest. A service provided at the barrel of a gun (as you unwittingly suggest), is not the answer.
Nicely stated, but also
Nicely stated, but also wanted to add for the benefit of the "Opposition Point of View" that a Water Theme Park does pay more money for it's water by virtue of the fact that it "uses more water." Corporations do pay more taxes than do individuals.
Please leave politics out
Hello everyone,
No matter what you are or believe in (Democrat, Libertarian, Republican, Independent, etc.), we the people should get what we need, not want. We might want many things, but should at least get what we need, since we all pay taxes. First of all, I need to feel free and safe in my own house, community, and nation. If my government is not providing me with those needs, they are failing no matter who is in power. In this case, tax dollars are not being well spent if we are using them for war, international charities, etc.because my home comes first. We are always fighting among ourselves regarding politics, but you know what? Behind doors they are all the same. They have good communication, but in public, they behave as political enemies and get us all aroused, because we do love our country, but most of our political figures don't once they have corporations influence their decisions even if they contradict their communities' (constituents) needs. Therefore, please lets work to have smaller government, more power to middle class, as great Americans lets keep our good heart and continue to give to those in need (but it should be on a volunteer basis), and those companies and corporations that get our tax dollars are already involving the government in their lives, so they have to deal with the governments' regulations and requests, such as sharing wealth, since their wealth was formed using our tax dollars, so governments should regulate their greed as well. If you do not want bigger government, then, do not involve them for your gain and then do all you want to do with your hard earned money, but lets be fair. Lets not fall into how other nations are completely regulated by corporations and people are totally inferior and powerless, believe me, it's a very bad feeling, even for those in power. Thank you.
You are saying tax dollars
You are saying tax dollars spent on national defense is spending them poorly? If you feel the need to be safe in your home/community/nation the only way to protect yourself is through the funding of national defense. Tax dollars are being poorly spent on welfare and other government aid programs.
People should not simply get what they need, they should get what they deserve. If a person starts a company and works their ass off to be successful why should they be forced to pay more taxes so the people who do not work can have a way of life? It is idiotic to tax people extra for their hard work. THe hard working deserve the largest tax breaks because they are the ones who keep the economy running.
[Yes, taking away our money from us, through force no less, to give it away to either illegal wars, welfare, or other 'government aid' is "spending them poorly." Not exactly sure why you think one form of highway robbery is okay, while another is not... --MJ]