Leave the United States if you can

Please leave, as quickly as you possibly can. May I suggest some enlightened societies you might like? Maybe Saudi Arabia, India, South Africa, Columbia?

I agree with you 100%. I am fed up with the usa and there beliefs.I am trying to salvage my firearms and sharp-shooting and trucking business.I go from charging the same price for guns as other gun dealers to charging only $5.00 over my cost and i lose customers.If i could get a job and place to live in Europe Asia Russia I would leave in a heart beat........

Hi MJ

I help Americans emigrate to one of the freest economies in the world; New Zealand.

Have a look at www.yieldqwest.co.nz and let me know if you have any questions.

Regards

Mike

I agree with you totally. I am looking at leaving the States. I am concentrating on one of the Nordic countries. I am 49 years old now. Things in this country have changed, and not for the better. All empires fall, and so will this one. Best of luck to you!

If you can I would strongly advise you to leave now. The United States is already in the works of establishing this New World Order. People are getting chips place in there bodies, FIMMA Camps are in the works (awaiting your casket),the federal reserve is fake and has no money to loan (although they loan fake money and have you pay interest on top of it), there is no money! It's gone! Baby boomers have no social security, so get out now if you can financially can. I'm a widow of 3 children and I'm planning my escape as we speak. I'm a real estate investor and need to make a few more deals to establish myself. But where you don't want to go is Canada or Mexico because there in on it. Consider Europe or Asia. Get an International passport and claim your sovereignty back from United States under the Uniform Commercial. Disconnect yourself from the United States Corporation from it's entirety. They are going to hold you against your Will by either if you are a creditor or a debtor and steal all your property. Our family is leaving before the borders are blocked. The Catholic Church/Cartel/Occult Secret Societies/Judges/Courts/Vatican/Mob/Rothchilds/are All in on it. The Government are controlled and ran by these secret entity's it's no joke, America needs to wake up here! THERE IS A MAN HIS NAME IS JORDAN MAXWELL GOOGLE PLEASE! You will then have a better understanding. Please America plan to get your family out while you can. For heaven sakes President Bush and his family were afilliated with Adulf Hitler. You are owned by England British royalty! NO JOKE! You are nothing but sheep and chattel in America. This country has went to hell in a hand basket. 911 was done by our own government! PLEASE GET OUT OF AMERICA IF YOU CAN! Place your money in Euro dollars. The United States dollar is worth nothing no more. For heaven sakes the government creates fake money out of thin air and charges you interest on that fake loan money. There Is No Money!

PS God Bless You and Your Family

Kathleen

FANTASTIC!
Call me and we will jump ship together.
It is easy.

Go to africa. They still respect family and marriage values. I am also a military veteran and I married a fillippina and she deserted after 8 years and she has a good job as a nurse and i m on unemployment and she was able to get a divorce after deserting me 4 none other reason she wasnt happy financialy. I m now forced to leave this home we were joint title on n thbe middle of winter because of the stinking family court system. I have a beautiful kenyan lady who wants to marry me once i get to kenya but when i get there m never coming back. So go to africa, good men r still respected there not to mention very pretty women as well.

The world is full of great people in little countries such as most of Central America, where you can live a healthy, prosperous, and fulfilling life without Uncle Sam breathing down your neck. All the fear mongering about filing taxes and such is BS. There are millions of us that have left, return regulary to see family and friends, and have never filed tax returns or paid any attention to the IRS. They operate on spreading fear and have no legitimate legal basis for their activities. Forget trying to battle them in court because you cannot win, but if you are discrete and private about your affairs, no one needs to bother you. You have a natural right to your own property, and just because you carry a US passport doesn't mean the tyrants own you. If enough people would stand up to them, they wouldn't have any power over you.
Get out if you can.

you don't even know what fascist mean when i lived in Russia i had everything now that it all collapsed i had no job no food no home. why don't you and the rest of the US keep your religon to your self.

IF you read and understand the Constitution you know they discarded that around Andrew Jackson and killed it with Woodrow Wilson. Just ask JFK.

We DO NOT follow the constitution.

Are you serious? You must be. But when you say "Unhappy with our Constitution? Then YOU leave!" WTF are you talking about. I agree with OP. I was happy with the constitution when I first read and understood it in high school. What a great idea, to put in place a power that will protect us but is limited in its power and cannot control us. What you fail to acknowledge is that we, as a country, no longer live by THAT constitution-the one that is printed in textbooks. Instead of the Republic of people that make up the U.S. deciding what is best for us, we look to the government for answers, tell us what to do next. This should be the OTHER WAY AROUND(according to the constitution). Our federal government is more powerful now than it was ever meant to be. Why does Uncle Sam need to know where I'm going when I leave the country? You stated, "I don't accept lying, cheating, stealing, or any other unethical behavior..." Well, friend, take a look at your local, state, and federal governments and tell me who your real enemy is. Is it your unhappy-with-the-government neighbor or the bend-the-rules-of-the-constitution government you love so much? What the hell do you think you're living in- a utopia? If you are really happy with the turn this country is taking as far as letting it's government have control over the people then YOU should leave because YOU, sir/madam, are UN-AMERICAN! You do not stand for the principles of the Constitution by supporting/backing/standing up for a corrupt bunch of greedy politicians that are using the ideal of capitalism to secure their own wealth. Get real.
I actually look forward to a response. email is posted above and here

uberced@[deleted]
[email domain deleted, we don't support spam bots. --MJ]

Those in power are the corruption who are denying us our constitutional freedom.

You claim the constitution is still valid.

It is not!!!!

I have lived in fear my entire life and told to love those who assaulted me (Who are hiding their drug habits and constant felony and criminal behavior) and have been told by those police who claim to support our constitution I don't have freedom of speech. I am not even allowed the freedom not to sign papers without being threatened.

I am told who to vote for by those who will assault me if I voice objection to physical or mental assult. I was forbidden to vote for the current president.

This United States has failed our Forefathers.

[... but why would you have wanted to vote for the current president? --MJ]

I agree with you more than other here...I left the US but will always love it. It was my home for over 40 years. I have to agree though, same here..business owner, vet, family, college...I agree with everything. I left for Mexico 2 years ago and love it. So many are grossly uninformed about this beautiful country. Let them enjoy their ignorance! I want less idiots here, not more. You are truly free here, low cost of living, clean water (really it is), low cost on just about every damn thing you can think of. Great schools and even affordable health insurance that actually makes sense. You can actually see an English speaking doctor (US educated) here for about $20 USD. I urge anyone with an open mind and sense of adventure and fun to try Mexico or any other latin country..that's right, ANY, even Cuba. Cuba knows a thing or two about taking care of their people's healthcare. We could take a page from them on that score.

The ignorance that has pervaded the US is staggering. From Gun, religious or isolationist nuts to a corporate mafia that is worse than any monster you could dream up. I miss my crabs (I'm orig from MD) and some friends but that's about it. I think I actually found the crabs here but I'll get back to you all on that one. Bottom line, the old saying is true, "You only live once" I believe I will be living here until the day I die. Sure I'll be back to visit, but I really can't see the reason of impossible rents and mortgages, health insurance, unstable ecomony and astromical and goofy health insurance. God Bless you all...

This is the most evil,corrupt,murdurous,etc..government in the world. Hitler was nothing to what the USA has in store for the population of poor,disabled,old,etc,etc. And God help those in prison that will be the first exterminated!

When I saw the jets fly into the towers at 911...I said to myself "OH MY GOD" expecting to hear broadcast since it was a "National Emegency" that our good God in trust USA was going to protect us (THE RICH)by starting the extermination that day!

I hope and pray like minded, in the know,concerned,and fearful,brothers and sisters will call me.
Remember how they risk their live to jump on anything that floats to flee Cuba??

Call Dana 712-323-9389
e-mail:danalm225@yahoo.com

Realize this is no joke. When JFK was murdered by the ones that will kill us all...it was time toflee then. Jackie did!

Hi, I liked your comment, and could not agree w/ you more. You said english speaking place, so I'm curious? We almost moved to Belize, but found out crime would be too great, after New World Order hits! We do alot of research. and would like to go in the soutern hemispere, mainly South America. Argentina and Uruguay are the best places so far that we could find that will do better over all in the New world for crime,weather,and food to live on.The only drawback is that there spanish speaking! Please let me know where area you found that would work. Take care

As a young man I came from Europe, worked for a number of large global companies, came to embrace the constitution and the bill of rights. ... and here I am, scared sh.. seeing what is happening around us.

I spoke to people that actually lived through the unfolding and the consequences of blind following in a time of depression. Yes, I am German and these people ended up doing things that went against any value their families ever lived by. For five years I had to listen in school to learn every detail about the Holocaust. This may have made me overly sensitive to matters of civil rights, war and the value of freedom.

Find trustworthy people that have some insight to explain the similarities to you. Maybe you know a WWII VET or refugee from this time. If not there is plenty of information on youtube.

But maybe you have an answer why the US suddenly has the need to build containment camps with red and blue lines and air tight roofs, pile up coffins in countless numbers, do everything to get weapons and/or ammo out of peoples hands. (Spare it, I have been on both sides of the fence and eventually sited with peoples individual rights. Remember my background. It wasn't an easy process, but I am firm in my believe in the indiviuals freedom)

Not to forget that you are not making a move in this country without being traced by security controls, credit card transactions, cell phone triangulation and probably a dozen other methods, I don't even know exist.

Shy of the states taking back their sovereignty and re-assemble under a new constitution that massively protects peoples individual rights, strongly limits government powers and outlaws special interest group favourism, and possibly makes lying in office equal to treason there is not much to stop what ever is coming our way. And. it is coming at us like a freight train.

Where do I take my worries from:
I was out of the stock market two years before is crashed.
I advised my friends to drop their investment properties 12 month before the crash.
I had my money out of the banks when only FED intervention prevented the banking meltdown. I am not talking bailout. I am talking a 2.7 Trillion intervention on the day when there was an electronic run on the banks drafting 3.5 Trillion from US bank accounts. (took 6 weeks to have checking accounts with all cleared funds paid out)
The moment the second plane crashed into WTC I said "Now he has a blank check"
When the EU didn't support the Iraq efforts I said "There is no substance to the claims of imminent danger".
In the business world I had some similar foresight, but that would probably not mean much to you the reader.

Here are my two cents on what YOU can do.

If you strongly feel that everything is in order and you are absolutely sure that your daughter or son will grow up in a better world, than do nothing.

If you have the slightest feeling that something has gone out of hand and the land is going down in a hand basket, than you must do one or more of the following:

a) inform yourself as fast and as much as you can
b) change your money into stuff you need (food, water, ammo, gas, batteries, tools, wood, paper) if it is useful to you, it will be valuable to others, kind of like money.
c) make an emergency plan for your family
d) move away from the city, preferably with land to grow stuff
e) move out to the country
f) come clean with yourself on what you are willing to do to defend your freedom, and do it

GET INVOLVED
a) contact your secretary of state and all other state legislators to follow the AZ example to become an independent state again and re-assemble as a new nation. (According to AZ legislation it is ready when 34 states join)

Why am I so convinced that such a dramatic step is needed?

It is the only way to undo 200 years of special interest legislation. We may have a glimpse of what there is, but we have no clue how much rights there are actually left for the people. IT IS TOO LATE TO FIX. If the executives of homeland security can not know what the content of the detailed government continuation plan is, how much do you think you know? Did you know that troops have been called from Iraq to stand by for crowd control, that the national Guard (not to be confused with state militia) is ramping up and that the local police has trouble getting ammo.And what is this thing about ServiceUSA?

I love this country and I love the people of this great country. I once felt my right to pursue happiness is untouchable and it fell good. Today, I'm flat out scared sh.. knowing that the walls are closing in fast on the most valuable we know - our freedoms.

For a new union I'd work for food and I would feel greatly rewarded knowing that my daughter can grow up in a better world.

Society needs rules, I agree. They can be as simple as

"Be free to go about your life as YOU see fit, just don't harm others. And by the way you don't owe anything to anybody. (hint taxes)

A country has enough resources to generate revenue from land, forests, lakes, trade duties where meaningful, at cost fees for direct service provided."

I plead to all of you to educate yourself and get in touch with your state representatives. If you don't like the idea to take charge, now, you definitely will not like the alternative.

The one who chooses security over liberty deserves neither. "Benjamin Franklin". (Quoted from memory)

If you haven't had much time to really think about freedom, the founding fathers did. Read up on their comments and thoughts. I guess it comes down to "With great freedom, comes great responsibility. You can not have the one without the other."

PS: Keep money close to you. Don't buy what you don't need. Buy plenty of what you need anyway. Think basic needs. Shelter, Warms, Food, Drinks, Essential Tools and supplies."

PPS: If the founding fathers would not have been willing to take the risk, we would have never had the freedoms we know. It's time to defend these freedoms. Talk to your state legislators. It's still a democracy and there are still laws in tact to regain freedom. It could be done in an hour if the states take charge.

PPPS: The minute Presidential Order 51 is put into force the show is over. From that moment on you will have to fight for the right to live, because the bill of rights will be revoked. (If anybody has any knowledge about "classified" in this document you must come forward and speak up) If Homeland security can not even know its full content it can not be good for the people. Martial law does not provide for an appeal before the Supreme Court. (Similarities to history)

PPPPS: Time is running out. Do something, anything, now.

Here's the bottom line:

The only thing you will ever learn about history is that nobody ever learns from history! In effect, we, as individuals, who live in our short time span on earth, think we live in an infallible society. Has it ever occurred that you might be living in either one of 3 phases of an empire (The United States which is of coarse the conversation on this page) 1. The Beginning of an Empire(hard times), 2. The Golden Years Of an Empire (a feeling of security), 3. The Downfall of an Empire (signs of tyranny bombarding you from all sided.)

Well fellow people on this board - all signs of an Empire i[n] Free Fall Decay are here - RIGHT NOW. I'm not affiliated with any particular party as I know it is all one big hoax. I do know that technology has made the world we call Earth into an ever shrinking mass where countries and corporations have bled into the same category.

All the things that made humans social interacting individuals are out the window. We are accustomed to technology and dependent on it for everything and that is extremely scary when you have sick minded power hungry tyrants running our country along with other world leaders. The[y] are in it for the power and the only way to attain full power is to have all control of the money.

Did anybody on this board know that 1% of the USA's Elite Population has 99% of the countries money? Is that not MIND BLOWING! The Federal Reserve is a cash cow to the Elite. Why do you think our own country doesn't just mint and print it's own money? Why have they setup a system of printing money with Elite Bankers who ARNE'T EVEN AMERICANS????? It's a simple way of expanding and crashing economies at will and attaining huge amounts of wealth considering THEY ARE THE ONE'S DOING IT. They know when to sell their assets (before a crash that they indeed plan) and they have the power of when to tell OUR GOVERNMENT when to give their Banker Buddies aka Wall Street aka Banksters (as in gangsters) Bailout money. That money comes from them and in return they receive trillions of paper money and then the American Tax Payer aka The poor uniformed, misinformed people also have to pay back interest on that money we "borrowed" from the Federal Reserve to bailout essentially themselves. It's a circle of death. It starts and ends in the same people's pockets while all of us Americans are getting poorer and poorer.

We are living in Revolutionary Times. We might see blood spilled very soon on this very soil. The people will wake up eventually. But will there still be time to make a change and retake back our country? Time will tell us as we don't have a crystal ball.

The warning signs have been there and are moving over us like a bulldozer. The next thing that we await is for the volcano eruption. That could come in the form of MANY different documented possibilities (it indeed will) - in the form of the Dollar Collapsing, World War 3 with Nuclear Weapons, or the selling of our country to the UN in the form of a "Green Society" (The biggest hoax since the dawn of man) which might as well also be know as NWO (New World Order) ,in peaceful disguise. And of coarse any of these major shifts would essentially spell the end of this country.

With all that said - I'm seriously considering my very near future options. Do I get out? Well were do I go? When you looking at a Corporate World Nation - your screwed anywhere you go within a certain amount of time. You might buy yourself some time of coarse but like history - war will rage and people will be scouring the globe to takeover more civilizations and they will leave no rock left unturned while doing so. You could move to a peaceful independent nation for the time being but you better have a plan of survival. It sure would be nice to find that perfect country and live outside the confines of impending implosion in not only the USA but also in many other countries of the world.

I've heard good things about Uruguay. I'm just looking into possibilities.

When chaos breaks out in the form of Marshall Law - you bet you[r] A** that the borders will be blocked and you will be stuck like a rat in a box trying to sneak out of this country.

Americans be prepared and take back over this country. We have an inherent ownership of it. These evil fools who have overtaken / hijacked our country must be rounded up by us 300+ Million people and thrown to the wolves to be made examples of. Put in place a new group of leaders to at least let us relive the birth of a nation. Here's my own personal quote on any empire, country, origin of a nation:

Throughout History "Elite" Men have created "Noble Idealism" only to be succeeded by "Tyrants" who then become the Elite.

Those Tyrants are in place securely like rocks in cement. We must blow them to pieces and start over again!

Good Luck to All and Learn to Think on your own and be a Realist. Optimists and Pessimists are for fantasy island. Just be Realistic and React to accordingly to Real Threats. We are in Grave Danger.

New Jersey

GIVING UP WHAT WE ARE!?!? I am ashamed to be called American or Christian because of the Holocost of Native Americans, the poor suffering and dying, the endless wars because the evil rich want to be richer, etc..etc.

COME ON!! WAKE UP!! Or, keep your blinders on.

I most definitely second a revolution. This is our land, our freedom on the line, our responsibility to stand up and do something. Anyone that knows anything about leadership, it's your time to rise and take part in leading said revolution. Some of us are leaders others follow, but regardless, we need to stand up and take action. Otherwise they will continue to commit tyranny on the people of the country with false hope of a better tomorrow, meanwhile, slowly stealing our freedom.

I have come to the same conclusions as many of you here and have decided to move to Ukraine. Why Ukraine?

No property taxes on private property
Income taxes super low ($50/mo flat fee on income up to $100,000 for entrepreneurs)
Good weather in Crimea
Cheap medical
Locally grown healthy food and water
Outside of big cities the new world order is non-existant
Beautiful women everywhere and in surplus
Average salary $200/mo so cheap workers if you start a business
very few laws compared to USA
villagers are very self sufficient and collapse is not even noticed

I have already travelled there twice and am moving for good in April. Amerika IS the new Nazi Germany!

You asked why we are not fighting to take back what is ours and the reason is that to stand against the government is considered treason and any attempt to overthrow this govt is punishable by death. You will simply be detained and labled as a nut case and left in prison until you [die]. You cannot change this system from within either. Voting, political action is ineffective. You speak up and shout loud and you are labeled as an enemy of the state. The uneducated follow blindly and will not hesitate to turn you in. That's why it is best to leave while you can. Revolution against the assets of the government will be crushed immediately. The US police force is far too powerful and has much more resources at its fingertips.

Where to go... I heard Uruguay was the best place. Argentina maybe. Only bad part is no speak English???